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Journal Entry: Sat Mar 8, 2008, 7:51 PM
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Yay for Women!
OK so here's some of my opinions on women in the arts and the whole equality thing in that context. I'm going to go ahead and ignore the general issues, since there's no way I can even start to cover just the arts, so yeah, don't think I'm not aware of the rest.

So,
We all know that its come from a crappy past, and in recent times.
The first time a woman won the archibald prize (Nora Heysen, 1938), one of the most respected male artists of the day, Max Meldrum, launched a formal protest claiming the prize was rigged as "No woman could be expected to paint as strongly as a man".
Charming.

Luckly everyone told him to get stuffed in the end.

Things have come along, a woman won the archibald just the other day, and the fact that she was a woman was not even mentioned in the debate, she was simply an artist, and this with the painting being a self portrait about motherhood.
So thats gotta be better.

2 things have to be said looking back in history.
1. Women have had a raw deal, for example the impressionists Bertha Morisot and Mary Cassett deserve equal standing to Monet and Manet and so on IMO, however it must be noted that the other artists in the group treated them very much as equals, it was only the rest of the world that didn't.

2. There are more highly reguarded (by art history) female artists then there are black men (for want of a more politically correct term).
So its not just the girls that cop it, the art world is run by rich white men it seems.
All we can say is things are changing, many female artist are now thought of very highly indeed, Frida Kahlo has left Diego Rivera in the dust, Georgia O'Keeffe is not remembered as the partner Alfred Stieglitz, but both considered important painters, their sex being beside the point.

Anyhoot I have to go paint something, thats just my thoughts right at this second, I've left heaps out, and encourage anyone who wants to debate/disagree to do so, it needs to be talked about.

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yay for women! yay for everyone with the courage to put their souls on canvas! yay for you! :clap: :)
Wonderfull journal :love: thank you so much for putting this together :glomp:

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great journal.

yeah, its never been that women haven't been as good as men at art, they just never had the same opportunities as men.

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Very well said. :nod:
Art is art, and its measure is nothing to do with the sex, race or colour of the artist, just their vision and voice.

I used to submit work and show at an establishment in the west of england and I couldn't help but notice that most of the main members of the panel were white men, more old than young. And it made me wonder whether the place was about art or politics....I wont start a debate there as none of us would have any time to paint! :laughing:
But here's to the power of art, to unite us all :worship:

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yeah, things are getting better, but things are still horribly, blatantly sexist in the art world. Look at it this way: most art schools are around 30% male and 70% female. However, as you climb higher through the ranks the percentage of males to females steadily increases, so the top rank, the most well regarded artists, are about 70% or higher male. Now, it's ludicrous to think that that occured without any sexism. You'd think, by looking at the amount of female artists to the amount of male artists, that the art world would be dominated entirely by women, but it's instead dominated entirely by men. THere's something very wrong with that picture.

And it's not just the arts, it's everywhere. Women just broke through in music a few years ago. People used to swear up and down that you could tell the difference between men and women instrumentalists. IT was only when they did blind auditioning that orchestras became about fifty-fifty in terms of men and women musicians.

the art world is still disgustingly, blatanktly sexist. It's not hte kind of sexist wehre it's obvious to even morons that the person is being sexist - it's an insiduous kind of sexism that's much harder to get rid of.

anyway, I'm glad you support women artists and want things to change, but don't think everything has gotten better, because it hasn't. That's the problem with the owrld nowadays - many people think that sexism and racism are behind us, but they're not, at all. People still have to keep fighting to change things, but because it's so insiduous, it's much harder for people to let themselves beleive that it's there, they would much rather beleif that all that nastiness was behind us. (i'm not saying you are one of those people, not in the slightest, I'm just pointing it out.)

Anyway, thanks for your journal, and for actually addressing the issue.

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well thanks, it is only a drop in the ocean, but I have limited time for da atm :(

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